A few months ago, I posted on an issue that I was finding very frustrating in the change management arena – the persistent myth that 70% of Change Projects fail. It struck a chord in the community and as a result Heather Stagl of Enclaria  invited me to take part in her radio show to discuss the myth.

If you weren’t prepared to get up at 6.am Australian time to listen, then here it is. Enjoy!

Do make sure you bookmark the page as Heather has some terrific interviews on her site and it’s worth taking the time to follow the series. OK. I may be a little biased…


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