Voila! And here it is, Part 2 of my #changechat podcast with the truly wonderful Celine Schillinger.

I mention a blog post that Celine had written recently on Camp Courage – you can find it here.

I also mention Lois Kelly – fellow change agent of the Change Agents World Wide Group – for more on her inspirational work head here.

In this interview we talk about:


  • the work she did that was acknowledged with the French National Order of Merit
  • the use of change approaches with social change
  • the relationship between courage and change
  • the use of social media in change





Dr Jen Frahm – Author of Conversations of Change: A guide to implementing workplace change.

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